Comments on: A question for Clement http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/11/a-question-for-clement/ 2 Perfume Bloggers Meet 2 Perfumers Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:01:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Sacre Nobi http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/11/a-question-for-clement/#comment-3689 Sacre Nobi Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:16:54 +0000 http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/11/13/a-question-for-clement/#comment-3689 Hi chaos, I'm wondering if your question is addressed to Clement or me, but let me assume you are seeking an opinion from someone outside IFF. I don't know if you are being approached by IFF in UK or in another country; nor do I know what is the job description that you have shown by them. Hence my opinion will be general. IFF is a "big multinational company" as well. At the same time it is an American corporation and has the strength and the weakness that American companies generally have. American companies are good in focusing on short term turnovers but lack long term visions compared to Japanese companies that have extremely long term visions. In other words, money comes first for an American company, but for Japanese company "survival" is the way to see business. So, I cannot say anything optimistic about IFF in 20 years from now, but for the moment it is the leader in Fine Fragrance business even after the Givaudan’s acquisition of Quest, and I think it will stay like that for a while. However Fine Fragrance is only a part of the business for Givaudan, IFF or Firmenich, and these companies will focus on flavors and toiletries more and more in the future. You need to make sure that the type of job that you will be offered at IFF has a good future perspective (for example, sales position will be great but IT is not good). And make sure you will be paid much more ;) Hi chaos,

I’m wondering if your question is addressed to Clement or me, but let me assume you are seeking an opinion from someone outside IFF.

I don’t know if you are being approached by IFF in UK or in another country; nor do I know what is the job description that you have shown by them. Hence my opinion will be general.

IFF is a “big multinational company” as well. At the same time it is an American corporation and has the strength and the weakness that American companies generally have. American companies are good in focusing on short term turnovers but lack long term visions compared to Japanese companies that have extremely long term visions. In other words, money comes first for an American company, but for Japanese company “survival” is the way to see business. So, I cannot say anything optimistic about IFF in 20 years from now, but for the moment it is the leader in Fine Fragrance business even after the Givaudan’s acquisition of Quest, and I think it will stay like that for a while. However Fine Fragrance is only a part of the business for Givaudan, IFF or Firmenich, and these companies will focus on flavors and toiletries more and more in the future.

You need to make sure that the type of job that you will be offered at IFF has a good future perspective (for example, sales position will be great but IT is not good). And make sure you will be paid much more ;)

]]> By: chaos http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/11/a-question-for-clement/#comment-3649 chaos Sat, 10 Mar 2007 04:34:48 +0000 http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/11/13/a-question-for-clement/#comment-3649 hi, I just came a cross this bolg for the first time today, as I was surfing the net, and I'm seeking your advice, I was working in the fragrance industry 2 years back for 4 years, and had to leave it. I had a totally different career ever since then, and been working for a global company where things are going smoothly. Recently i've been offered a job with IFF and i'm very confused, from one side I have a very nice job with a big multinational company, but I hate the product that I sell; other than that every thing is great about my current job, on the other hand I have a great passion for the fragrance industry, but i've been out of the industry for a while and I would appreciate your advice on IFF as an employer and the future prospects of it, especially after Givaudan's aquisition of Quest. Regards, hi,

I just came a cross this bolg for the first time today, as I was surfing the net, and I’m seeking your advice, I was working in the fragrance industry 2 years back for 4 years, and had to leave it.

I had a totally different career ever since then, and been working for a global company where things are going smoothly.

Recently i’ve been offered a job with IFF and i’m very confused, from one side I have a very nice job with a big multinational company, but I hate the product that I sell; other than that every thing is great about my current job, on the other hand I have a great passion for the fragrance industry, but i’ve been out of the industry for a while and I would appreciate your advice on IFF as an employer and the future prospects of it, especially after Givaudan’s aquisition of Quest.

Regards,

]]> By: kuri http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/11/a-question-for-clement/#comment-665 kuri Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:08:04 +0000 http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/11/13/a-question-for-clement/#comment-665 I have not heard that proverb, but that's true for most proverbs :D I have not heard that proverb, but that’s true for most proverbs :D

]]> By: christophe http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/11/a-question-for-clement/#comment-620 christophe Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:29:18 +0000 http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/11/13/a-question-for-clement/#comment-620 salut Clément, j'espère que tu vas bien on cherche à réunir avec qqs anciens de Victor Hugo les personnes avec qui nous étions en classe, je ne sais pas si tu habites aux Etats Unis ou si tu es en France bref, tiens moi au courant si tu reçois ce message Cordialement Christophe Aimo salut Clément,
j’espère que tu vas bien
on cherche à réunir avec qqs anciens de Victor Hugo les personnes avec qui nous étions en classe, je ne sais pas si tu habites aux Etats Unis ou si tu es en France
bref, tiens moi au courant si tu reçois ce message
Cordialement

Christophe Aimo

]]> By: Sacre Nobi http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/11/a-question-for-clement/#comment-606 Sacre Nobi Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:28:37 +0000 http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/11/13/a-question-for-clement/#comment-606 Hi Sariah, Thanks for your comment. I will answer to your question soon. Nobi Hi Sariah,
Thanks for your comment.
I will answer to your question soon.
Nobi

]]> By: sariah http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/11/a-question-for-clement/#comment-600 sariah Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:11:15 +0000 http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/11/13/a-question-for-clement/#comment-600 Hello Nobi, Regarding your comment about perfumers and the industry - that he who knows the most says the least. Why do you think that is? There are lots of perfume blogs out there so obviously there are a lot of people interested in perfume, but no website or blog written by an actual perfumer that I know of except the things that Clement and Laurent have written here. The closest thing to an insider blog would have been Luca Turin's I guess, which was really great while it lasted. Hello Nobi,

Regarding your comment about perfumers and the industry - that he who knows the most says the least.

Why do you think that is? There are lots of perfume blogs out there so obviously there are a lot of people interested in perfume, but no website or blog written by an actual perfumer that I know of except the things that Clement and Laurent have written here. The closest thing to an insider blog would have been Luca Turin’s I guess, which was really great while it lasted.

]]> By: Sacre Nobi http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/11/a-question-for-clement/#comment-548 Sacre Nobi Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:08:49 +0000 http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/11/13/a-question-for-clement/#comment-548 <b>Kuri</b>, that's what I find fascinating about these perfumers and the industry. Do you know a Japanese proverb "Nou aru taka wa tsume wo kakusu"? It's similar to "still waters run deep" or "Who knows most says least." Kuri, that’s what I find fascinating about these perfumers and the industry.
Do you know a Japanese proverb “Nou aru taka wa tsume wo kakusu”?
It’s similar to “still waters run deep” or “Who knows most says least.”

]]> By: kuri http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/11/a-question-for-clement/#comment-547 kuri Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:56:47 +0000 http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/11/13/a-question-for-clement/#comment-547 Thank you for the response! It sounds more and more like regular work (albeit creative). If there weren't pictures, I might start picturing a Dilbert-like workplace. Clients must be pretty aware of the work of specific perfumers if they are inclined to request particular teams. Thank you for the response! It sounds more and more like regular work (albeit creative). If there weren’t pictures, I might start picturing a Dilbert-like workplace. Clients must be pretty aware of the work of specific perfumers if they are inclined to request particular teams.

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